Message 241581 - Python tracker

Message241581

Author	ionelmc
Recipients	Claudiu.Popa, belopolsky, christian.heimes, eric.snow, ethan.furman, ionelmc, jedwards, llllllllll, r.david.murray, rhettinger, steven.daprano, terry.reedy
Date	2015-04-20.00:50:14
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On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 2:59 AM, Eric Snow <report@bugs.python.org> wrote: > It not a problem currently for callable. It is one you are proposing > to introduce. It is one which current users of callable don't have to > worry about. > > > > > Were do we draw the line here? > > We don't add to the problem. Instead, we work to decrease it. > What exactly are you proposing? Getting rid of AttributeError masking? I'm talking about applying an old design decision (AttributeError masking) in `callable`. Doesn't seem useful to talk about not having exception making unless you have a plan to remove that from other places (that's even harder than fixing `callable` IMO) just to fix this inconsistent handling in Python. Unless you think having inconsistent handling is OK. I do not think it's OK. There should be the same rules for attribute access everywhere.

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On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 2:59 AM, Eric Snow <report@bugs.python.org> wrote:

> It not a problem currently for callable.  It is one you are proposing
> to introduce.  It is one which current users of callable don't have to
> worry about.
>
> >
> > Were do we draw the line here?
>
> We don't add to the problem.  Instead, we work to decrease it.
>

What exactly are you proposing? Getting rid of AttributeError masking? I'm
talking about applying an old design decision (AttributeError masking) in
`callable`. Doesn't seem useful to talk about not having exception making
unless you have a plan to remove that from other places (that's even harder
than fixing `callable` IMO) just to fix this inconsistent handling in
Python.

Unless you think having inconsistent handling is OK. I do not think it's
OK. There should be the same rules for attribute access everywhere.

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Date	User	Action	Args
2015-04-20 00:50:15	ionelmc	set	recipients: + ionelmc, rhettinger, terry.reedy, belopolsky, christian.heimes, steven.daprano, r.david.murray, Claudiu.Popa, ethan.furman, eric.snow, llllllllll, jedwards
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2015-04-20 00:50:14	ionelmc	create