Message 85233 - Python tracker

Message85233

Author	tseaver
Recipients	akuchling, djarb, facundobatista, forest, giampaolo.rodola, gvanrossum, intgr, j1m, jafo, josiahcarlson, kevinwatters, markb, mcdonc, stutzbach, tseaver
Date	2009-04-02.18:24:53
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Guido van Rossum wrote: > ISTR that Zope has or had significant monkeypatches to at least one of > asyncore/asynchat. The resulting coupling between Zope and asyn* has > meant that the de-facto API of asyn* was much more than the documented > API. IMO that's a sign of a poorly designed API (in asyn). If Zope > had had its own copy of asyn (under a different name of course) that > relied only on lower-level APIs (sockets and select), it could have > evolved that copy directly without the need for monkeypatching. Zope does not monkeypatch asyncore or asynchat, and hasn't since at least Zope 2.5 (the oldest checkout I have, first released 2002-01-25). Tres. - -- =================================================================== Tres Seaver +1 540-429-0999 tseaver@agendaless.com Agendaless Consulting http://agendaless.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJ1QLqFXKVXuSL+CMRAhelAJ9yYgo1RXUhWR2cH8CjYRoXz/qsvACgg13O BFAiRoYP8AWVgQVWBhVhB+4= =wj2y -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Guido van Rossum wrote:

> ISTR that Zope has or had significant monkeypatches to at least one of
> asyncore/asynchat. The resulting coupling between Zope and asyn* has
> meant that the de-facto API of asyn* was much more than the documented
> API. IMO that's a sign of a poorly designed API (in asyn*). If Zope
> had had its own copy of asyn* (under a different name of course) that
> relied only on lower-level APIs (sockets and select), it could have
> evolved that copy directly without the need for monkeypatching.

Zope does not monkeypatch asyncore or asynchat, and hasn't since at
least Zope 2.5 (the oldest checkout I have, first released 2002-01-25).

Tres.
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