[python-committers] PQM?
Barry Warsaw
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Thu Aug 14 01:03:26 CEST 2008
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Aug 13, 2008, at 6:41 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > Le mercredi 13 août 2008 à 18:33 -0400, Barry Warsaw a écrit : >> Or to adopt tools that help improve reliability. I'm not convinced >> that the buildbots really do that. A PQM-style approach, while more >> of a pain for developers because of the serialized landings, would >> definitely improve things, and there's not nearly as much >> infrastructure involved to keep humming for old releases. PQM isn't >> perfect, but I do believe it would help. > > What is a "PQM-style approach"? PQM = Patch Queue Manager Basically, it's a robot that controls commits to the trunk. Nothing lands in the trunk without getting through PQM first. PQM serializes changesets so that they must apply cleanly with no conflicts, and pass the entire test suite. There could be other conditions, e.g. that it lints cleanly, has no whitespace issues, etc. If any of the set of conditions fail, the changeset does not land. This means that the trunk is always in a releasable state, and we avoid the problems I run into all the time now, where we have red buildbots on or near release date. I would dearly love to be able to spin a release at any time and have a high degree of confidence that what I'm releasing is stable. There's a specific implementation of PQM based on the Bazaar revision control system, available here: https://edge.launchpad.net/pqm PQM is not perfect, nor is it a perfect fit for us. For example, we have buildbots that run on multiple platforms, while PQM runs on a single platform. So a vanilla PQM could still miss changes that break only on a specific operating system. It also doesn't help at all for bugs not covered by the test suite (well, buildbots don't help there either ;). PQM also introduces delays on trunk landing because it serializes commits. So when things get backed up, it might take a while for your branch to land on the trunk. PQM wouldn't replace the buildbots, but it would greatly improve the quality of the development branches, IMO. The buildbots would still be useful to ensure cross-platform quality. - -Barry -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) iQCVAwUBSKNoP3EjvBPtnXfVAQIrdwP+I9Cj7uBl+Ux9ioDd+Xc2KXCcF0hXRqpj z4XfUdZeWlUQdUoNspj/mzl9Q/zVz4wyTUmmDV3nH9a5qd6vGAnFvOZHLwpipDE2 NYISJYVWlYp71ljANJ/sWoywAc8Lj/AaD2l532S8RC4JPf53MNlIyB3CtIpDq315 ZMqS3RSRP10= =5qLh -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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