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[python-committers] Anatoly Techtonik's contribution (again)

Brett Cannon brett at python.org
Fri Nov 29 16:27:11 CET 2013 
On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 10:12 AM, Alex Gaynor <alex.gaynor at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm not sure if it's because I'm reading the lists more, or if he's
> actually posting more, but I definitely seem to see him more frequently.
>

No, it's definitely picked up. He went dormant for a while and now he is
back.


>  And almost none of it is positive contribution, it's almost entirely
> people wasting time trying to humor him. I'm honestly not sure I've ever
> seen a discussion with him add value to the community.
>

His core points are typically valid (which is why I assume so many people
have tried to help him fix his attitude), but then his solutions are
typically over-the-top and he demands things occur instead of suggesting.
Basically he's just rude.


>
> Karl Fogel's book, "Producing Open Source Software", has heavily
> influenced my thinking here (
> http://producingoss.com/en/difficult-people.html), but I think we ought
> to reconsider banning him from the mailing lists that we run.
>

Python-ideas has a CoC now for a reason. Might be time to enact one for
python-dev and the bug tracker.


>
> Alex
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 9:07 AM, Antoine Pitrou <antoine at python.org>wrote:
>
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I'm a bit curious, but do people think Anatoly is now behaving more
>> constructively than before?
>
>
No.


>  He does seem to post *less*, otherwise...
>>
>> After all, he's just sent another rant about the "community process" in
>> which the word CLA seems to appear multiple times:
>> https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2013-November/130632.html
>
>
He also flat-out admits that he is "disrespectful to policies". He views
himself as being a rabble-rouser to make sure old ideas get revisited. I
say there are nicer ways to make sure old decisions are revisited that
don't require being disrespectful and rude.

-Brett


>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Antoine.
>>
>>
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