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[python-committers] Proposal for procedures regarding CoC actions

Guido van Rossum guido at python.org
Fri May 5 14:51:15 EDT 2017 
Maybe there should be a published list of moderators (not a mailing list,
just a list of people to mail!) where you can send such reports. If a
moderator is being rude it's probably time to escalate to the PSF.

Thanks for pushing for a definite process on this issue!

On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 11:44 AM, Mariatta Wijaya <mariatta.wijaya at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Thanks everyone for the input.
>
>
> It is still unclear to me how one can report when someone is being rude on
> GitHub.
> In the mailing lists we can email the administrators. But what about on
> GitHub?
> Do I write to python-committers?
> What if it was a core developer who was being rude, where can a non
> core-dev contributor report such behavior?
>
>
>
> Mariatta Wijaya
>
> On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 6:53 AM, Nick Coghlan <ncoghlan at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 4 May 2017 at 06:10, Guido van Rossum <guido at python.org> wrote:
>> > Two ex-board members disagree. I have to side with Brian; the PSF board
>> > should have minimal say in how the developers develop.
>> >
>> > Note, I'm fine with the board being the arbiter when someone disagrees
>> with
>> > their ban though -- there's got to be a "higher authority" for appeals.
>> But
>> > I don't agree that the board should be the decider on the initial ban.
>>
>> I think initial temporary suspensions should definitely be handled
>> without involving the Board (just as they are for any other PSF
>> provided channel).
>>
>> I also think there are two cases that can definitely only be handled
>> at the board level:
>>
>> - folks that feel they've been treated unfairly by the core
>> development team appealing to the Board for reconsideration
>> - the core development team recommending that a ban from our channels
>> (python-dev, python-ideas, core-workflow, bugs.python.org, GitHub
>> python org) be extended to other PSF provided channels
>>
>> I'd previously said that I thought conversion of temporary suspensions
>> to permanent bans should also go to the Board, but I now think it
>> makes more sense to handle that as:
>>
>> - the Board gets notified if a temporary suspension is now considered
>> a permanent ban
>> - they only need to get further involved if the ban is appealed
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Nick.
>>
>> P.S. Don't forget that the specific context here is *public* behaviour
>> that is the domain of channel moderators, rather than confidentially
>> reported Code of Conduct concerns. Handling of the latter will remain
>> with the PSF Board or their appointed representatives, independently
>> of how we handle moderation of the development channels.
>>
>> --
>> Nick Coghlan   |   ncoghlan at gmail.com   |   Brisbane, Australia
>>
>
>


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--Guido van Rossum (python.org/~guido)
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