[python-committers] Fw: CoC violation (was: Retire or reword the "Beautiful is better than ugly" Zen clause)
Ethan Furman
ethan at stoneleaf.us
Thu Sep 20 20:25:20 EDT 2018
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On 09/20/2018 05:06 PM, Nathaniel Smith wrote: > On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 3:35 PM, Ethan Furman wrote: >> And I have to argue against his use of the n-word* as being part of the >> reason -- he wasn't calling anybody that, he was using the word as an >> example of a taboo in one culture that is not in others. Using that as part >> of the reason to ban him helps me understand the sentiment voiced at the >> sprints of the feeling that the CoC is a weapon waiting to shoot us down. > > But using that word, even with quote marks around it, *is* a serious > taboo in American culture. And partly this is because "white person > who finds convoluted excuse to use the n-word" is such a cliche that > the affected folks have given up with arguing about it and just don't > want to hear it anywhere, in or out of quotes, with or without an > excuse attached. There's no reservoir of good-faith left to fall back > on. > > Now sure, that taboo is an American thing, and I wouldn't support > automatically banning someone who used it in genuine ignorance, was > repentant when they realized what they'd done, etc. Context absolutely > matters. But in context here it's clear that Jacco knew perfectly well > that he was violating a taboo, and I can't read his usage as anything > but an intentional provocation. Especially when combined with all the > other things in his email. You make good points. -Ideas is not, after all, a sociology course, and he did already know that. I withdraw my objection. -- ~Ethan~
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