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[Python-Dev] Python Package Management Roadmap in Python Releases

Stephen J. Turnbull stephen at xemacs.org
Thu Oct 22 08:54:39 CEST 2009 
David Lyon writes:
 > On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 18:38:26 -0700, Brett Cannon <brett at python.org> wrote:

 > > David, you are making a huge leap here thinking that we even want
 > > a package manager in the stdlib.
 > 
 > Well - who is 'we'? If it's python-dev people I can accept and
 > respect that.

Yes.  The stdlib is a product of python-dev.

 > If it's regular developers out there in developer land,

They are not participants in this decision.  python-dev people *do*
care about them.  Nevertheless python-dev is manifestly uninterested
in dealing with *this* issue on behalf of the "regular developers out
there".  (With good reasons IMHO, but you can find those reasons
elsewhere.)

To make progress here on python-dev, you need to get those regular
developers involved in python-dev.  I can think of two ways to do this
that will help.  (1) Turn them into committers via whatever aspect of
the language they are interested in.  This will take a while, and
substantial contribution (ie, effort) on their part.  Once that
happens, they will be in a much stronger position to advocate the
package manager and credibly promise to maintain it (or find a new,
credible maintainer) indefinitely.

(2) Put the package manager on PyPI and get a lot of people on the
bandwagon.  If it's a good product and recommended, the movers and
shakers of python-dev will be very likely to try it and more likely to
second your motion in the future.
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