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[Python-Dev] IDLE in the stdlib

Mark Janssen dreamingforward at gmail.com
Fri Mar 22 21:22:38 CET 2013 
On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 2:48 AM, Antoine Pitrou <solipsis at pitrou.net> wrote:

> Le Thu, 21 Mar 2013 21:38:41 +0100,
> Georg Brandl <g.brandl at gmx.net> a écrit :
>
> > Am 21.03.2013 19:13, schrieb Antoine Pitrou:
> > > On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 19:57:54 -0700
> > > Raymond Hettinger <raymond.hettinger at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On Mar 20, 2013, at 12:38 PM, Barry Warsaw <barry at python.org>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Right.  Ultimately, I think IDLE should be a separate project
> > >> > entirely, but I guess there's push back against that too.
> > >>
> > >> The most important feature of IDLE is that it ships with the
> > >> standard library. Everyone who clicks on the Windows MSI on the
> > >> python.org webpage automatically has IDLE.   That is why I
> > >> frequently teach Python with IDLE.
> > >>
> > >> If this thread results in IDLE being ripped out of the standard
> > >> distribution, then I would likely never use it again.
> > >
> > > Which says a lot about its usefulness, if the only reason you use
> > > it is that it's bundled with the standard distribution.
> >
> > Just like a lot of the stdlib, it *gets* a lot of usefulness from
> > being a battery.  But just because there are better/more
> > comprehensive/prettier replacements out there is not reason enough to
> > remove standard libraries.
>
> That's a good point. I guess it's difficult for me to think of IDLE as
> an actual library.
>
>
It's not a library.  It's an application that is bundled in the standard
distribution.

Mark
Tacoma, Washington.
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