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[Python-Dev] PEP 453 (pip bootstrapping) ready for pronouncement?

Donald Stufft donald at stufft.io
Fri Sep 27 20:22:50 CEST 2013 
On Sep 27, 2013, at 2:14 PM, "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen at xemacs.org> wrote:

> Also, I think that proponents of backporting this PEP are missing
> something important.  Specifically, why are we encouraging the use of
> Python 2.7 for "new users"?  Shouldn't we use this as an opportunity
> to say, "Move to Python 3.4 and forget the 'agony of installing pip'
> issue forever?"

Because reality is that new users are still likely to be using Python 2.7. Python 3
is just now starting to be really usable, however there's a huge corpus of existing
tutorials, course work, books etc for Python 2.7. As Python 3 becomes more usable
that existing corpus of material will be ported over to Python 3 but in the interim
there is still a pretty large hurdle for new users to get over.

That's assuming that they are even able to use Python 3 and whatever they are trying
to do with all of their libraries are ported to Python3. I still think Python 2.7 is a better
target for new users because if you're using Python 3.x theirs a high chance you'll
need to port a library or two still.

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