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[Python-Dev] PEP 460 reboot

Ethan Furman ethan at stoneleaf.us
Mon Jan 13 17:33:04 CET 2014 
On 01/13/2014 07:52 AM, Barry Warsaw wrote:
> On Jan 12, 2014, at 09:45 PM, Glenn Linderman wrote:
>
>> Quotes in the stream are a great debug hint, without blowing up.
>
> They actually terrible for debugging for exactly the same reason as coercion
> in Python 2.  It's rarely what you really want, it silently succeeds, and it
> means that the user visible error is far removed from the actual bug, both in
> code distance and time.  So yes, it tells you Something Went Wrong, but is
> actually a hindrance to finding and fixing the problem.

You mean like this is?

--> '%s' % b'abc'
"b'abc'"

I agree, but we're stuck with it with str, we may as well be stuck with it for bytes, too.  :/

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~Ethan~
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