Maintainability (was Re: Stackless & String-processing)
Aahz Maruch
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Thu Jul 22 19:22:35 EDT 1999
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In article <37974758.FF2DAE55 at callware.com>, Ivan Van Laningham <ivanlan at callware.com> wrote: >Aahz Maruch wrote: >> >> I'm afraid I can't agree that there's *ever* a good time to use "from >> foo import *" in a multi-programmer environment. Too often, you have a >> programmer new to a particular chunk of code trying to debug it; not >> knowing exactly where a method/function call is coming from vastly >> increases debugging time (particularly when there are hundreds of >> modules and scripts). If you want to use an unadorned class/function, >> you can just take the trouble to explicitly list it as "from foo import >> bar, baz". > >All true, except for perhaps Tkinter. And my soon-to-be-released >mayalib-1.2. Both are specifically designed to use 'from xxx import *' >and both carefully refrain from polluting your namespace. But possibly >you don't use Tkinter in your projects, Aahz? (I think I can safely >assume you don't use any Mayan dates. ...;-) The point is that a programmer looking at a traceback has no way of knowing from looking at a line of code in isolation where the function/class comes from. At least with "from foo import bar" a search through the source will discover which module/package bar comes from. Although polluting the namespace is an issue (and as Greg points out, if someone subclasses, you definitely do have a greater likelihood for namespace collisions), I'm trying to hammer on the idea that specifying where things come from is a critical issue. -- --- Aahz (@netcom.com) Androgynous poly kinky vanilla queer het <*> http://www.rahul.net/aahz/ Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6 (if you want to know, do some research)
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