new bitwise module [was Re: Discussion: new operators ...]
Christian Tanzer
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Thu Aug 3 01:50:46 EDT 2000
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hzhu at users.sourceforge.net wrote: > >Removing operators from a language is another topic, though. > > Advice well taken. > > I think there is a miscommunication to be clarified. The bitwise proposal > was for putting the new module in, not for taking existing symbols out. The > latter was billed for Python 3000, which I understand is anybody's fair game > for any speculation. > > I can see that the discussion on prefering the new module to the existing > bitwise operators (when both are available) could be alternatively read as a > call to remove the symbols from the language in realistic terms. That never > crossed my mind so I didn't try to make it clear. Well, on 02 Aug 2000 you did say (regarding a PEP): > Well, the benefit does not show much for those who like slinging ints. The > overall benefit to all others, including though who sling ints occasionally, > comes from the elimination of a large proportion of builtin operator syntax > (complete with special symbols and precedence rules). > > So why infix operators for math but not for bitwise operation? A few > reasons come to mind right away: (3 reasons snipped) My understanding of PEPs is that they are not concerned with Python 3000. > Anyway, you are right that this is a distraction. So let's move on. Much luck with your matrix operators (I'd prefer something like [op], BTW). -- Christian Tanzer tanzer at swing.co.at Glasauergasse 32 Tel: +43 1 876 62 36 A-1130 Vienna, Austria Fax: +43 1 877 66 92
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