Why don't people like lisp?
Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters
mertz at gnosis.cx
Sat Oct 18 12:20:25 EDT 2003
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Kenny Tilton <ktilton at nyc.rr.com> wrote previously: |People don't like Lisp because of misconceptions, and threads like that |help dispel those. In my own mind, the biggest impediment to really liking Lisp is not the annoying parentheses and awful syntax... it's many Lispers (especially those like Tilton). As soon as I try to learn more by reading discussions, I am bombarded with weirdly fanatical (and very long) posts that are overwrought with many misrepresentations (e.g. Python has "Lisp DNA", when pointedly it does not by GvR's indication). Not that different Lispers even bother with the same misrepresentations--just so long as they are clear that programmers of all other languages are ignorant and stupid. Or tortured threads about things that are only possible in Lisp... but as soon as any example is presented, it is obvious that the same thing is not only possible, but much easier and more direct, in (some) other languages. Then special pleading accompanies the weaknesses of doing something in Lisp: you have to use some other distribution (maybe a really expensive commercial one); if only you wrote these difficult and huge macros it would be easy; you don't -have- to use the syntax since the semantics is abstract; you shouldn't want to do -that-, but rather this other thing; etc. Yours, Lulu... -- _/_/_/ THIS MESSAGE WAS BROUGHT TO YOU BY: Postmodern Enterprises _/_/_/ _/_/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~[mertz at gnosis.cx]~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ _/_/ _/_/ The opinions expressed here must be those of my employer... _/_/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ Surely you don't think that *I* believe them! _/_/
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