Currently it's somewhat surprising that while the documentation often states the default values for certain builtins, invoking the builtin with keyword arguments as described in the documentation does not work.

Original discussion: #7447

I'm going through all builtins to see how the keyword arg support looks and I'm going to present a patch for Doc/library/builtins.rst that explicitly states that builtins don't support this kind of invocation.

Expect a patch later today.

Is this a duplicate of #8350?

Same problem, different context. Here we have an already accepted idea (from #7447) to extend the documentation by providing an explicit explanation that named arguments in builtins are usually positional only, contrary to the intuition. I've already commented in #8350 that I believe documentation should include a note that one cannot use specific arguments as keywords.

Both issues cover different parts of documentation so they're not duplicates.

The title of #8350 is outdated. The discussion has shifted from one specific function to the general doc problem. Since it contains references and opinions, I think it supersedes this one.

I agree this should be closed and moved to #8350.

Let's do this then :)

Superseded by: #8350

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